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Post by nightowl on Jul 8, 2016 23:10:06 GMT -8
Hi all,
New here. I have a '78 LB Courier with 2300 engine and auto trans. We bought it in 1982 with 29K from the original owner. It is now a utility vehicle and only used for a couple weeks twice a year. Recently the rad started leaking. I went on-line to several major auto part stores to look up a new rad. They all list the same rad (same picture and specs) which is clearly smaller than the one in there now. I'm quit sure it is the original factory rad and not a transplant upgrade by the PO. But its about 3" taller and has 3 rows of tubes (versus 2 on new ones). I can find no reference to an optional larger rad, such as for (cough) a tow package or something. I took mine to a rad shop where they determined it is too far gone to fix, but they can build me an identical new one for $400-800. Ouch!
Have any of you even heard of an optional large rad? I'm afraid to use the available smaller one with the 2.3L engine. The stores list only the one size for both engine sizes, but that info could be wrong. Going to visit the Ford dealer next week and have them look it up. Just curious if any of you have seen or dealt with this issue.
Thanks N.O.
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Post by chip on Jul 11, 2016 10:44:53 GMT -8
Welcome aboard. I have not heard of this specific question of radiator size before. But . . . I constantly run up against aftermarket manufacturers that list the same part for every year the courier was built even though I know perfectly well that the part in question changed several times. Case in point, I am right now in conversation with ITM engine components about the cam that they sell. They list only one cam for everything from '72 to '76, and I know that there were AT LEAST four different cams used in that time, and some of them were a lot better performing than others. Problem is ITM doesn't even know the specs for the cam they are selling! So it's a mystery with no solution. Anyway, to your question I don't know but I suspect that the 2300 with the automatic probably did have a larger rad stock from the factory. Its hard to believe that a rad shop can't re-core yours for a lot less than $400 or more. Don't be tempted to buy one of the fairly in-expensive aftermarket ones out there, they are crap. I put one in and it was toast within 3 years! Then I bought a New Old Stock one off e-bay, cost about $40 more than one of the cheapies, and it's been good as gold every since. It is still just a 2 core with no trans cooler though. Try looking at a 70's Pinto radiator. They used the same 2.3 motor and trans combo, the rad might be a direct swap-in to your courier.
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Post by nightowl on Jul 16, 2016 20:30:56 GMT -8
Thanks for the comments. Point taken about the changes over the years. Plus I would not be surprised if the parts databases tend to be less accurate for older cars made before they had databases. Its possible the picture is just not the right pic. Although the dimensions are smaller too. I think $400 for a custom rad is not terrible, but $800 would be absurd. They felt that both tanks and the core were shot; even though the top tank was the only visible damage. That leaves only the mounting brackets on each side they would use. Maybe the Ford dealer will shed some light.
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Post by chip on Jul 18, 2016 10:19:11 GMT -8
Another resource for information are the guys at NOS Parts Limited. www.nospartsltd.com/ They have a decent selection of new old stock for the courier. I doubt they have a radiator (plus their prices are a bit steep) but if you call, they are pretty helpful with part numbers. They have a lot of old parts catalogs and have given me part numbers in the past to help me search for what I needed if they didn't have it. If nothing else you can find out if there is a rad specific to your engine/trans combo or if someone installed what you have as an aftermarket mod.
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